So, you've ID'd some folks who have similar goals as you and you all would like to form a benificial group to prepare against whatever it is you feel the need to prepare for. I suggest starting with only one or two other initial members. That way, after you've hammered out what the group will be, you can each then recruit more members with a goal in mind. (easier to get group concensus with fewer members)
Step 1- Research and plan your group type. Figure out what you want to get out of your group. This can change over time and may have phases built in. Do you just want a group to bounce ideas off of? Do you want a group that all chips in money to buy a retreat in Idaho? Do you want your group to pool resources in times of emergency (one person buys the nice reloader another buys the big flour mill, another buys the diesel generator)? Try to define what it is you want to join. Everyone's idea may be different- and you will have to compromise. As cheezey as it sounds, a mission statement may help give direction- a one sentence statement that defines the purpose of your group. Everyone needs to know what the group is for. Otherwise your just hanging out. After you agree on what it is you are going to do, it's time to plan.
Step 2- Get organized. Give the group a name. Try to keep notes on what was discussed. Decide where and how often the group will meet. What will happen at these meetings will largely depend on the group's mission statement. If you are primarily a weapons and tactics group- you may meet at the range on a regular basis. Others may meet in the home of a member- or a public location. Decide on membership requirements or limits. Be curtious of others and don't exclude potential members simply because they have a busy work load and can't meet every other Tuesday. Decide who the leader is. Every group needs a leader- though it may not be you. Be prepared to be a follower if a better leader is present. Decide early on if decisions are going to be democratic in nature or not. You can create an agenda of activities or goals. For instance, one month may be get CPR certified month (you could host a CPR instructor for the group or maybe a member is already qualified to instruct). Another month you could talk about food storage- or cooking techniques, or knife sharpening or gun cleaning, or gardening... Be sure to decide about new members- what it takes to let a new member into the group. Respect the privacy of other members.
Step 3- Stay Active. Whether you are the group leader or not, if you want the group to continue you have to be supportive of everyone. Be encouraging to others. If you value their membership, make them feel wanted and important. Do fun things- not just discussion meetings. Go for hikes, to HAM radio club events, to the gun range, to gun shows, help other members dig in their gardens...
Question- is it alright to join multiple groups? I think so. Each group may have different goals and offer different benifits of membership. I also think in terms of circles. I have a circle of friends that believes strongly in food storage, yet abhors guns. Another circle that loves guns, yet places little emphasis on anything else. Eventually, I hope to get enough people who have similar goals, circumstances and perspectives as me and we can form a real tight-nit group.
Next post I will define I want out of my ideal survival group.
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Wednesday, November 18, 2009
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
Poll results- Visiters want to form groups to prepare against the government overstepping it's bounds
These polls are still running, but it's clear that most of the people who responded would like to join a prepper group to aid in the defense against the government overstepping it's constitutional bounds and bandits (they might be the same group). Also, there are a good number of lone-wolf types that responded. That's something you will have to do on your own. For the rest of us, I want to try to help everyone form a prepper group.
I'm betting that my newest poll reflects a diverse group of people- although the majority will be conservative leaning. (meaning that your group doesn't nesessarily have to be of the same political leaning as you- though it may help)
So, what can we do to identify individuals that would be interested in joining a survival group? What traits should they possess? How do you organize? How do you organize your preparations?
I'd like to address each of these questions in separate posts- starting with
How to identify individuals to be in your group.
First, make a list. List your talents and skills- and your weaknesses. Do some soul searching and be honest. Focus on the weaknesses and skills that you lack. You can either go and try to acquire the skills, or you can recruit someone who already possess them. I suggest both. Consider tactical experience, intelligence, leadership, wealth, medical knowledge, cooking skills, wood working skills, hunting skills, mechanical skills, welding, religious, humor...
Once you know the skill type you are looking for, where do you find these people? Well, the easiest place to start is with the people you already associate with. Ok, you are into OPSEC and nobody knows you are a prepper and you want to keep it that way- well, you can always fish. What's fishing? That's what you do when you lure a person into a conversation to see how they respond.
You could say something as innocent like, "What do you think about the economy?" If they respond that they aren't concerned or are oblivious, they might not be interested in joining your group... or if you ask, "last week was veterans day, you served in the military right? What did you do when you were in?" That can open the door to conversations about military tactics and their opinion on current military activities, guns....
You don't have to volunteer anything- just ask the right questions. Here are some other openers: "What do you think about the price of Gold? I saw it reached over a $1000/ounce last week." or "What do you think about the bailouts- do you think it will work?" or "I heard the new health care bill would put people in jail if they don't have health insurance, what do you think of that?"
These open-ended questions will reveal what kind of person you are dealing with. Don't preach, don't try to convert- just ask and listen.
Once you ID a potential group member- you might try something like, "I picked up a few extra groceries this week- I'm concerned about the economy." And see how they respond. Or, "I've heard that the price of guns has gone way up since Obama came into office- Do you think I should buy one" And listen to the response. You need to be a friend to this person before you ask them to join a group. Besides- they may be wacko. Interview them without them knowing it.
You might find the person you're looking for right away- or you might not. The thing is, get to know the people you hang out with- they may have the skills you need- they could join your group- or you could just learn from them.
So, you've exhausted everyone you know? Now go to farmers markets, coin shops, church, the shooting range, or other social events where you can meet new people and fish them/befriend them. Don't neglect to fish out family members and distant relatives. Remember Uncle Roy? He's an avid hunter with a hunting lease in every other state...
Next post I will discuss how to actually form the group. Comments welcome.
I'm betting that my newest poll reflects a diverse group of people- although the majority will be conservative leaning. (meaning that your group doesn't nesessarily have to be of the same political leaning as you- though it may help)
So, what can we do to identify individuals that would be interested in joining a survival group? What traits should they possess? How do you organize? How do you organize your preparations?
I'd like to address each of these questions in separate posts- starting with
How to identify individuals to be in your group.
First, make a list. List your talents and skills- and your weaknesses. Do some soul searching and be honest. Focus on the weaknesses and skills that you lack. You can either go and try to acquire the skills, or you can recruit someone who already possess them. I suggest both. Consider tactical experience, intelligence, leadership, wealth, medical knowledge, cooking skills, wood working skills, hunting skills, mechanical skills, welding, religious, humor...
Once you know the skill type you are looking for, where do you find these people? Well, the easiest place to start is with the people you already associate with. Ok, you are into OPSEC and nobody knows you are a prepper and you want to keep it that way- well, you can always fish. What's fishing? That's what you do when you lure a person into a conversation to see how they respond.
You could say something as innocent like, "What do you think about the economy?" If they respond that they aren't concerned or are oblivious, they might not be interested in joining your group... or if you ask, "last week was veterans day, you served in the military right? What did you do when you were in?" That can open the door to conversations about military tactics and their opinion on current military activities, guns....
You don't have to volunteer anything- just ask the right questions. Here are some other openers: "What do you think about the price of Gold? I saw it reached over a $1000/ounce last week." or "What do you think about the bailouts- do you think it will work?" or "I heard the new health care bill would put people in jail if they don't have health insurance, what do you think of that?"
These open-ended questions will reveal what kind of person you are dealing with. Don't preach, don't try to convert- just ask and listen.
Once you ID a potential group member- you might try something like, "I picked up a few extra groceries this week- I'm concerned about the economy." And see how they respond. Or, "I've heard that the price of guns has gone way up since Obama came into office- Do you think I should buy one" And listen to the response. You need to be a friend to this person before you ask them to join a group. Besides- they may be wacko. Interview them without them knowing it.
You might find the person you're looking for right away- or you might not. The thing is, get to know the people you hang out with- they may have the skills you need- they could join your group- or you could just learn from them.
So, you've exhausted everyone you know? Now go to farmers markets, coin shops, church, the shooting range, or other social events where you can meet new people and fish them/befriend them. Don't neglect to fish out family members and distant relatives. Remember Uncle Roy? He's an avid hunter with a hunting lease in every other state...
Next post I will discuss how to actually form the group. Comments welcome.
Thursday, September 17, 2009
Survival Groups
Survival groups form as preppers realize that chances of survival increase if you have a network to help in the event of a crisis or sociatal breakdown. James Rawles book "Patriots" portrays a good example of how a group could function. Each member brings different talents to the group and division of labor and effective defense are benifits of such a survial group.
I have heard stories of failed attempts at creating survival groups. Reasons include lack of commitment from each member. Varrying expectations of group members, and fiscal differences can easily create riffs that could break up the group.
Imagine the rich doctor that wants to join a group that is willing to commit financial resources, yet does not have the time to commit to survial practice and help with the building of the physical retreat. He may expect that his financial contribution compensates for his lack of time- this situation may work out just fine- or it could create friction with other members of the group that are putting in the sweat and hard labor.
Consider the part time prepper that figures that a cabin in the woods is more like a timeshare vacation. When he goes there, he doesn't help with the garden or building or chopping wood. He's on vacation- if others members of the group percieve that he is not pulling his own- disputes can break up the group. Or another who tells everyone and his dog about the "secret" retreat- violating the privacy expectations of others.
On the other hand, chances of survival and the group staying together increase if everyone of the group understands and agrees (in writting) to the expectations. I think that a constitition of sorts could be drawn up and every member who joins must abide by the rules- or face expulsion.
In Patriots, there was one overall leader with other members in charge of various jobs (medical, logistics, cooking...). If a disagreement ever arose, the leader had final say- like it or not. A crisis is not the time to vote and debate- right or wrong a swift decsion can save lives and give purpose.
If you belong to a group, lets hear what's worked for you and what hasn't.
I have heard stories of failed attempts at creating survival groups. Reasons include lack of commitment from each member. Varrying expectations of group members, and fiscal differences can easily create riffs that could break up the group.
Imagine the rich doctor that wants to join a group that is willing to commit financial resources, yet does not have the time to commit to survial practice and help with the building of the physical retreat. He may expect that his financial contribution compensates for his lack of time- this situation may work out just fine- or it could create friction with other members of the group that are putting in the sweat and hard labor.
Consider the part time prepper that figures that a cabin in the woods is more like a timeshare vacation. When he goes there, he doesn't help with the garden or building or chopping wood. He's on vacation- if others members of the group percieve that he is not pulling his own- disputes can break up the group. Or another who tells everyone and his dog about the "secret" retreat- violating the privacy expectations of others.
On the other hand, chances of survival and the group staying together increase if everyone of the group understands and agrees (in writting) to the expectations. I think that a constitition of sorts could be drawn up and every member who joins must abide by the rules- or face expulsion.
In Patriots, there was one overall leader with other members in charge of various jobs (medical, logistics, cooking...). If a disagreement ever arose, the leader had final say- like it or not. A crisis is not the time to vote and debate- right or wrong a swift decsion can save lives and give purpose.
If you belong to a group, lets hear what's worked for you and what hasn't.
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